Memorial Heartbreak

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I got an email from David today that he is still coming on Sunday, but he will not be staying overnight. I do not understand what can be more important than spending at least 24 hours with his son.  I want to curl up in a ball and cry or run off to a lawyer and remove all rights. He may love his son, but Michael does not know it. Michael is hurting so badly for a father that he runs up to the other children's fathers with big searching eyes. I do not know if I can bare the pain anymore. We were supposed to fill out information on him for a research project and go over the IEP and everything. How can I be selfish and try to get David to listen to that when it is only a few hours wih Michael? I cannot terminate rights becauase I need the child support so badly. I love David but this hurts too badly to keep hoping for my son to have a father.

I think I could handle him

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I think I could handle him not visiting if he would take the time to show he actually remembers he has a son when he is back in Minnesota. He has only called me once in the last 3 years, and he was drunk. He has only called Michael once ever. When I ask if we can talk online about Michael he does not reply. Not once has he ever sent off a message asking how Michael is.

David can prevent me from moving any further away than I am now. Things went really bad with my mother once, she is manic depressive and I askde him straight out if he would stop me from moving and he told me he would. 

All I want is for him to keep one promise. I want him to either have a presence in Michael's life or none at all. 

I do tire of people telling me to go out and date. I do not get to go out. I prefer to be home with my son when he goes to bed. My mother can watch him occasionally on a Thursday night, but I rarely have money to waste. I am not a drinker, so there is really few options for meeting people. And I have tried dating knowing dang well how I felt for someone else-David. It really is not fair using a guy to get over him, or letting him think I feel more than I do. To be honest, I am not even sure I want someone in my life. I can barely keep it together right now, and nobody should have to pick up my mess. Michael was hurt deeply by the last guy I was serious about. We ended up engaged, and he wanted to adopt Michael if David did not get himself in order. I ended up being abused. But nothing hurt more seeing Michael's heart broken when he walked out. It was after that when Michael started regressing and for a long time he would not have anything to do with any male. Being older it is even easier for him to get attatched. I want to get my life in order before I think about adding anybody to it. 

I'm sorry, I forgot about

WyattsMom's picture

I'm sorry, I forgot about some of those important factors like the broken engagement.  It is very important to have time to heal and time to get it together.  I do remember the dating scene and I was the same as you--not much of a drinker and I didn't have a lot of money to waste.  There were whole years where I was a homebody and/or taking a break from dating.  If I had known I wasn't going to meet The One until I was just a few weeks shy of age 30, I wouldn't have bothered going out until then.  And I didn't even have a kid, just a cat in my care.

For some reason, I thought you talked more with David, at least recently.  When did you last ask David if he would stop you from moving further away, like to stay with your sister?  If it was more than a year ago, he may have changed his mind.  I would definitely document all the  David interaction (when he contacts and visits and for how long) because that could be useful in the future. 

It sucks that you are not allowed to leave, yet you are already in a different state from David.  You may be able to prove that you are not able to make ends meet in your current situation (and therefore NEED to move).  You could also show that you have very limited help from your mother, your only relative in the area (right?), plus no transportation.  You could show that David has not truly visited and therefore perhaps you could petition for an exemption?  I don't know anything about how those laws work, and absolutely nothing about what's what in Iowa and Minnesota.  I'm just tossing some ideas out there. 

What research study are you applying for?  If you get into it, you'll probably want to stick around for a while if it's a good study. 

I wouldn't worry about

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I wouldn't worry about terminating rights at this point.  Why bother?  It's not like David is trying to take Michael away from you.  If you are worried about David popping by for a few hours every six months, I think you could probably just talk it out with him in live chat or on the phone.  I think he would respect how you feel and I don't think he would necessarily get angry and threaten not to pay child support.  It's all in how you sugar-coat your feelings and present the situation to him. 

Can you fill out forms over email?  Maybe you could do that through the snail mail or just have him sign on the dotted line when he visits, which will take 2 seconds.  Can you email David the IEP stuff and just ask him if he has any input?  He probably won't and then you can just do what you think is best.  If David is the kind of guy who hates paperwork then that could be one reason why he is shortening the visit in the first place.

The length of his visit may have absolutely nothing to do with you or Michael.  David's problems are David's problems, and like you said, only the Lord knows what's going on with David.   

Well, I don't know if this will make you feel any better, but Wyatt does the same thing as Michael when he sees men he thinks are nice.  He ADORES the principal at his school.  Here's an excerpt from a report we got just this week from Wyatt's teacher:  "Wyatt has show an increased fascination with new adults that come into the classroom...This is particularly true when male adults come into the classroom or if Wyatt sees them outside on the school campus as well.  Wyatt will go over to them and take his/her hand, make eye contact and pull them to go alongside of him." 

I cannot imagine how frustrated you are feeling about this visit with David.  You could look at this mini-visit as totally non-productive from an administrative head-of-household point of view.  You could metaphorically put it in a balloon and let it go.  You could make the whole visit just for Michael to have a little male bonding time, with David serving as more of a generic male person than a Dad.

Honey it takes more than

Cindy's picture

Honey it takes more than blood to be a daddy. There are plenty

of good men out there. It sounds to me like a "surrogate" father

would be helpful. Maybe somebody just a little older than you.

Ive never mentioned it before but my husband is ten years

older than me. Maybe David is trying to be faithful so he's

avoiding an overnight, who knows? If he doesnt want to be

a full time daddy to that sweet little boy of yours I'd find myself

a good man that does =) Keep your chin up.

That's right!  You know, I

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That's right!  You know, I think Cindy is right.  Don't think that there aren't any men out there who can't handle the woman that you are.  There are real live grown-up men out there and you deserve a good one if you want one.  I don't think Michael would mind you dating.  It seems like he would actually like meeting new grown-ups. 

It's nice to be right on

Cindy's picture

It's nice to be right on occasion lol. Honey you need to toughen

up as difficult as it is. Think of all the military wives who've

lost their husbands and are having to be both mommy &

daddy. At least this David is alive and at least he's paying up.

Im not saying he's a good guy. This guy made two

children & didnt marry either mother. The PROBLEM is you

are still in love with David. Ask yourself how can you love

somebody who would do that to his child? Your jealous

of the woman he's with and her up to now "normal" child...

and let me tell ya that's a normal chick reaction. The difference

is you're a mama now. I'd take that sperm donors money

every month, and he BETTER keep paying. I would toughen

up and show that boy he's not lacking anything in the love

dept coz you love him more than life itself and I know you do.

Date, dont date whatever, but you need to fall out of love with

this guy. I dont mean to be mean but look at the situation.

He doesnt work right? He lives with his mommy right? We

know his we*ner works thats for damn sure. Shootingstars

you are a nice pretty, bright young mother. You deserve better

and so does your son. What you're having a hard time with

is thinking that maybe just maybe if this child was "normal"

that this guy would be more involved in your life, and that

maybe you'd even be married by now. Maybe, and maybe

he would cheat, abuse you and your son, we dont know.

I do know that we women have a tendancy to fall in love

with bad boys and that there's a reason they are referred

to as bad boys. Keep your chin you. That little guy will be

fine. And by the way there are places you can go without

booze, like church...., or friends can fix you up. Friends

fixed us up. We met July 8, 1980 & eloped 13 days later

July 21st and have been married 28 years this July. I wasnt

pregnant, it wasnt a shot gun wedding. We were in love,

broke and in love lol. I dont mean to sound frustrated but

I am old enough to be your mom and even though we will

never meet I care about you & Michael =)

It seems that I am always

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It seems that I am always defending David... But some truths need laid out. He is not with his daughter's mother. If he was I know his sisters would break their lets not talk to Holly just to rub it in my face. He moved in with the oldest sister because her husband had been diagnosed with skin cancer. David helped out with their girls and bills. He probably makes pretty good money. He is a deisel mechanic and works nights. Ot whenever they decide to play slave driver. He had been promised a days shift so things would work out better if Michael and I move, but he said child support of Rose is what made him switch back into the shop so he could afford that. Naomi probably gets 2x as much as me, just for the differences in David's wages between our court orders. He claims money is his biggest concern of me moving because cost of living is skyrocketing up in that area. I cannot bring myself to ask him to consider moving back. I cannot ask him to choose between his children. He got to be there for every milestone with Rose's first year. Where as with Michael he missed everything. t is not fair to my son, but I know he cannot compete with that.

I have thought about moving closer to him on my own. To make the 6 hours a little less, but in truth I do not want to be somewhere alone. I guess if Ma could get a transfer and the same pay rate and wanted to move. Me not having a car really puts a stick in the mud. Last night I was so frustrated thinking about money I thought abou today looking up  stuff about a previous surrogate mother conversation Nicole had started.

I dont know what to tell you

Cindy's picture

I dont know what to tell you except dont make excuses for

bad behaviour. David could call, he could make an effort.

And Holly you dont wanta be a surrogate. You've carried

life inside of you, imagine giving that life up. I speak from

experience. I was adopted. My birth mom got pregnant at

26 and had to give me up. My sister is four years younger,

& has a different father. She kept my sister. I found them

using my computer and with a whole lota luck. I found out

somewhere out there I have two older siblings who are

hispanic. It seems my birth father spread his seed all over

Santa Monica California. I could even have more I will never

meet. Kids aren't puppies. Im glad she gave me up, but

I dont understand how she could have done it. I could never

give up my child no matter what. Take it easy, you'll be okay.

Times are difficult for everybody. The economy is cruddy.

Cut back on expenses. You have a roof over your head,

count your blessings, It'll make you feel better =)

 

I may seem really cold, but

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I may seem really cold, but I never really bonded with Michael as an unborn baby. It was not until after he was born and home that the love and mother thing kicked in. And it took some time to really fall in love with him. Giving somebody who wants a child is a huge gift. The child would not be mine gentically, yes I would care about it, but I imagine no more than my friend's children whom I have been there since birth. I would be a surrogate for a friend except they cannot afford the medical bills and she does not think her insurance, or mine would cover for surrogate OB.

My expenses are what we need to survive and then cable/net.  Should I stop wearing deoderant and washing my hair daily to save a few cents... I had one guy claim I could save enough for a car if I cut back expenses. Back then I was trying to just make my rent payments. I could cancel the cable and net, but I found them to be better resources. I am no longer depressed from being secluded from anybody but Michael's workers and neighbors. I can email family and post my poetry and art. Michael gets to watch educational TV now.

I think I will cease any mentioning of my son's father. I have always defended him and always will when he is in the right about something. Yes there are things he can do and does not. And it hurts us. But he is not intentionally a bad person.

Maybe I opened him up for judgement in my need to vent some tears. But in truth I am the only one who can decide his worth when it comes to me and my son, and someday it will either work out, or I will walk away. But I am the only one who can make that decision, no matter what others may feel. It is not an easy one to make, and either way I am doing somebody wrong.   There is no right or wrong choice to be made, it is a matter of the less wrong way to go. Until I can make that decision I think I will keep this to myself, and I apoplogize for even opeing this all up for discussion.

That's just the nature of

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That's just the nature of having a blog, people are going to give you their 2 cents.  You don't have to act on any of it and you can sass us right back and set us straight.  The last thing we want to do is make you feel bad. 

I will say one more thing though, and that is something that I just remembered--I had a co-worker who received child support for her children.  When they got to be teenagers, she went back to court and asked for more money because their needs and expenses and the cost of living had gone up. So, that is another option for you since you didn't have Michael's autism diagnosis back then and special needs children may incur extra expenses, plus David's income has increased.  My co-worker said that everything is very dry and professional and the court just plugs numbers into a calculator and readjusts totals.  

I know it is all so overwhelming, but having gotten to know you a little, I know you will carefully deliberate and try to make the best, fairest decisions possible.  Also, I agree with you that you are an excellent candidate for the surrogacy thing.  I'm envious!   

No problem. You are still

Cindy's picture

No problem. You are still very young, I just hate to see you

make decisions that will effect the rest of your life thats all.

I bonded with Marcel right off. As a matter fact I knew I

was going to get pregnant that night. I got pregnant

April fools and he was born Xmas eve 1999. I was huge

when I was pregnant lol and felt gorgeous!! I just didnt

like being tired so much of the time and that I would cry

over something, anything nearly every day. REALLY think

about the surrogacy thing. It's not fair that I have siblings

I will never meet and that I dont even know if my birth

father is alive. There are other ways to make money.

Take it easy.

It wouldn't be her

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It wouldn't be her biological child.  Also, if she had a regular job she would be tired all the time from that, too :)

I agree, this would not be

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I agree, this would not be my child, nor Michael's sibling. The egg and sperm would do their dance in a petri dish and placed for me to incubate. I would simply be watching over it for 9 months, going through a C-section, but ultimately give a gift to somebody who deserves it. It is not only about being paid to do it. I have 2 friends who are struggling to have children. One has cervical cancer, diagnosed at 18, andher window is closing. They say after a pregnancy they will do a hysterectomy so she can be done with the cancer. Another is a wonderful girl I went to school with. She does Day Care in a town south of here, and everybody loves her. I see their pain and think how if I could I would do anything to ease it. I would do that for anybody deserves the gift of motherhood.

Okay I give up =)

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Okay I give up =)